Poxie threw a snit fit when Kingfish scolded someone for spamming the
group.

Too bad Stinkfish, nor you, get to decide what is and what isn't spam.

Any questions, numbnuts?

--

"Naturally, the common people don't want war;
neither in Russia nor in England nor in America,
nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine the policy and
it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist
dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."

- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall

It would be defined in the group RFC whether for sale ads are permitted.

Ever heard of email?

Nope, the charter does that.


None, you?

Posting Rules for the co.* hierarchy

These newsgroup posting guidelines apply only to the co.*
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Introduction:

In Usenet tradition, there are generally only two kinds of
newsgroups - moderated and unmoderated. The difference
between the two is that anyone can post just about anything they
want to an unmoderated group, whereas nobody can post
anything to a moderated group without the approval of the
moderator.

In the co.* hierarchy, commercial groups will generally be
moderated, but discussion groups will not. Instead, they will
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further notice, all 3rd party cancellations will be handled by
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Readers and posters are expected to give their full support to
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1. Do not post binaries, HTML, vcards, or other non-standard
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If more than five groups are listed, delete the least appropriate
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insert something like the following note in brackets:

[newsgroups trimmed -- the co.* hierarchy has a 5G crosspost limit]

5. Do not post or crosspost to moderated groups unless you have
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It is better to quote only the part you are responding to, and to cut
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Other people will be upset if you make a mistake and put words
in their mouth.

7. Set your line width at no more than 75 characters. This allows
an additional five spaces for the quote marks in follow-ups so that
other posters don't have to reformat your articles in order to send
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8. Do not SHOUT at people by posting in ALL CAPS, even if you
are really angry. Use asterisks (*) or underlines (_) instead to
emphasize words or phrases. It is easier to read "I am really
angry with you" than it is to read "I AM REALLY ANGRY WITH
YOU."

9. Do not post articles in other people's names, not even in jest.
Forgery is taken quite seriously in Usenet, and you could lose
your account.

10. If you insist on munging or faking your email address, be
careful not to create problems for other people. One poster
thought he had a real cute address to give the address harvesters
- [email]no (AT) spam (DOT) com[/email] - until he was informed that the domain
"spam.com" belongs to Hormel Foods, and that any mail for "no"
was probably being sent to Hormel's servers.

11. Do not post private email in the newsgroups without permission
from your correspondent. When people see their email spread
around, they tend to quickly lose faith in the person who spread it.
If by chance you _do_ accidentally post email to a newsgroup, be
sure to apologize right away.

12. Beware of heated conversations. Sometimes they turn into
flamewars, which are often very hard to stop. If you see a flamewar
brewing, try not to get involved. If you find yourself in strong
disagreement with another poster, ask yourself if it is worth it to
respond. If your response is likely to start or continue a flamewar,
it might be best to _not_ respond rather than add fuel to the fire.
There is no rule that says you must respond to every article.

Cancellation Policy:

Certain articles may be subject to cancellation, including but not
limited to: Make Money Fast chain letters and pyramid schemes;
binaries in non-binary groups; and obvious "spam" with a
Breidbart Index equal to or greater than 20. The best way to
avoid such cancellations is to not post these types of articles and
to not "spam" in Usenet.

Except in emergency situations, third-party cancels will be issued
by the co.* hierarchy administration only after obtaining permission
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emergency situation, as when a newsgroup is flooded with "spew,"
prior consent will not be sought. In both cases, copies of the cancel
message will be sent to the poster and his site administrator so that
they will know the message was canceled by the co.* hierarchy.

If a poster or service provider feels a cancel was unfair, an appeal
may be posted for discussion in co.config. The decision will be
made by consensus of the group in co.config, and apologies will be
made to anyone who can show that a cancel was unfair.

Newsgroup Hosts should not attempt to cancel any articles
themselves unless authorized to do so by the co.* hierarchy
administration.

Readers and posters to the co.* newsgroups should not attempt
to cancel any articles but their own.

Suspected forgeries will be reported directly to the originating site.

Unauthorized use of registered domains will be reported directly to
the domain whose name is apparently being misused.

For further information on cancels, see Tim Skirvin's Cancel FAQ
at: [url]http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/faqs/cancel.html[/url].

Amendments:

These rules may not be amended by the co.* hierarchy maintainer
without full RFD discussion in co.config. Any person directly
connected with the co.* hierarchy may post an RFD suggesting
amendments to these rules. The procedure to be followed will be
the same as for a newsgroup proposal -- two weeks minimum
discussion, possibly extended twice, and then (hopefully) a
decision will be made by consensus without the need for conducting
any votes. Once a hierarchy committee is formed, the committee is
free to propose and adopt its own posting rules.

Approved by consensus in co.config on Friday, May 28, 1999.


CO-Newsgroups-FAQ

The following is the complete listing of current co.*
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server. Please support the co.* hierarchy by asking your news
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This list is posted monthly to co.config and co.general.
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co.cos.jobs Colorado Springs jobs and employment
co.denver.general Discussion for and about the City of Denver
co.food Discussion of food in Colorado
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co.fort-collins.general Fort Collins general discussions
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co.politics Colorado state-wide politics
co.test co.* hierarchy test group

boulder.general FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
Last-modified: 2001/10/01
Version: 1.4


Subject: 1. INTRODUCTION

This article contains the answers to Frequently Asked Questions
(FAQ) seen in the Internet newsgroup boulder.general. It is posted
at random intervals, usually when if people are asking questions
already answered by it, or when someone requests that it be posted.
Until the current revision, this FAQ also covered co.general, but
now it only pertains to boulder.general.

This article is Copyrighted by Mr. N. O. Body. It may be freely
redistributed in its entirety. It may not be sold for profit or
incorporated in commercial documents. Permission is expressly
granted for this document to be made available for file transfer
from installations offering unrestricted anonymous file transfer
on the Internet. This article is provided as is without any express
or implied warranty.

This FAQ is written in "minimal digest format". You can skip from
one section to the next by pressing ^G in many newsreaders, such as
rn, trn and strn (but not nn).

Questions marked with a "+" are new to this issue, and questions
with changes since the last issue are marked by a "!".

Submissions, corrections, comments, input, complaints, attaboys,
large amounts of money, etc., should be directed to boulder.general
------------------------------


Subject: 2. TABLE OF CONTENTS

1. INTRODUCTION

This article contains the answers to Frequently Asked Questions
(FAQ) seen in the Internet newsgroup boulder.general. It is posted
at random intervals, usually when if people are asking questions
already answered by it, or when someone requests that it be posted.
Until the current revision, this FAQ also covered co.general, but
now it only pertains to boulder.general.

This article is Copyrighted by Mr. N. O. Body. It may be freely
redistributed in its entirety. It may not be sold for profit or
incorporated in commercial documents. Permission is expressly
granted for this document to be made available for file transfer
from installations offering unrestricted anonymous file transfer
on the Internet. This article is provided as is without any express
or implied warranty.

This FAQ is written in "minimal digest format". You can skip from
one section to the next by pressing ^G in many newsreaders, such as
rn, trn and strn (but not nn).

Questions marked with a "+" are new to this issue, and questions
with changes since the last issue are marked by a "!".

Submissions, corrections, comments, input, complaints, attaboys,
large amounts of money, etc., should be directed to boulder.general
------------------------------


Subject: 2. TABLE OF CONTENTS

1. INTRODUCTION
2. TABLE OF CONTENTS
3. ANSWERS
3.1! Where can I find a list of local Internet Providers?
3.2! What is the charter of boulder.general?
3.3+ What should I do when someone posts something off topic?

4. MISC. INFORMATION
4.1! Who is the Administrator of boulder.general?
4.2! What is the fastest drive time from Boulder to DIA?
4.3! What is the fastest time from 3rd St. to Nederland Dam?
4.4! What is the big deal about Todd's lunch break?

------------------------------
Subject: 3. ANSWERS
------------------------------

Subject: 3.1 Where can I find a list of local Internet Providers?

Beats the hell out of me. Years ago, there was a good list by
called "Tom's Internet Provider List" compiled by Tom Bresnahan
(tbrez (AT) csn (DOT) org).

Supposedly, this list now resides at:
[url]http://www.rmiug.org/rmiug/providers/index.html[/url]

But last I checked that file didn't exist.


3.2 What is the charter of boulder.general?

The boulder.general newsgroup is meant to be used as general
discussions groups for items specifically related to Boulder,
Colorado. Typical topics seen are:
DIA, Water Levels, Weather in general, Honesty of Car Dealers,
why Boulder/Colorado is great, Entertainment happenings,
why speed limits are bad, why speed limits are good, etc.

Also, a number of items .for-sale are often posted ... but these
often cause additional traffic ... which usually cumulates in some
strong words (and the original poster saying "show me the charter")

So ... (keeping in mind that there *are* no rules in Usenet! ;-),
I would suggest that "co.ads" is much more appropriate for stuff
that you are trying to sell, "commercial" announcements, etc.
In a similar vein, co.jobs is recommended for jobs postings.


3.3 What should I do when someone posts something off topic?

Unfortunately, the articles on boulder.general are almost all
off topic these days. Not a day goes by when someone thinks
(erroneously) that boulder.general is the appropriate forum
for gun control activism, discussions of politics, and other
irrelevant drivel. Don't feed the trolls! Politely suggest
to these people what they can do with their off topic discussion.

Message-ID: <3bb8e641 (AT) news (DOT) mho.net>

The boulder.general newsgroup is meant to be used as general
discussions groups for items specifically related to Boulder,
Colorado. Typical topics seen are:
DIA, Water Levels, Weather in general, Honesty of Car Dealers,
why Boulder/Colorado is great, Entertainment happenings,
why speed limits are bad, why speed limits are good, etc.

Also, a number of items .for-sale are often posted ... but these
often cause additional traffic ... which usually cumulates in some
strong words (and the original poster saying "show me the charter")

So ... (keeping in mind that there *are* no rules in Usenet! ;-),
I would suggest that "co.ads" is much more appropriate for stuff
that you are trying to sell, "commercial" announcements, etc.
In a similar vein, co.jobs is recommended for jobs postings.

Yep, and the charter doesn't prohibit personal for sale ads.

Lying again I see.

Yep, and personal for sale ads are allowed, have been, and always will be.

Stinky don't have real email.

You're lying again shitsucking fundie. You don't get to
decide what is or isn't appropriate for these groups.

Yep, nothing in there prohibiting personal for sale items.

Try again lying fundie.

It advises against them.

Bite me you cynical teat mauling atheist!

3.2 What is the charter of boulder.general?

The boulder.general newsgroup is meant to be used as general
discussions groups for items specifically related to Boulder,
Colorado. Typical topics seen are:
DIA, Water Levels, Weather in general, Honesty of Car Dealers,
why Boulder/Colorado is great, Entertainment happenings,
why speed limits are bad, why speed limits are good, etc.

Also, a number of items .for-sale are often posted ... but these
often cause additional traffic ... which usually cumulates in some
strong words (and the original poster saying "show me the charter")

So ... (keeping in mind that there *are* no rules in Usenet! ;-),
I would suggest that "co.ads" is much more appropriate for stuff
that you are trying to sell, "commercial" announcements, etc.
In a similar vein, co.jobs is recommended for jobs postings.


Bite me you misbehaving scrotum sucking atheist!

Would you guys/gals please remove "rec.games.pinball" from your headers
for this thread... I for one and probably many others don't give a
shit. Thanks.


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