I haven't been keeping a list of the ambiguous insults Dale/Average
Joe/Comrade has aimed at me, but I don't think he's called me "dainty" yet.
I am apparently part of the leisure class (which is odd, because I'm typing
this at work now, and I wouldn't expect the leisure class would have to
work). In my attempts to get Dale/Average Joe/Comrade to define his terms,
I learned that I'm an imperialist because apparently Dale/Average
Joe/Comrade feels constrained by English.

But I don't think I have been called a "dainty" yet. I'm not entirely sure
what a "dainty" is supposed to be-- or even if it is bad to be one. Here's
one dictionary's definitions of the word:

1. Delicately beautiful or charming; exquisite.
2. Delicious or choice. See Synonyms at delicate.
3. Of refined taste; discriminating.
4. Overly fastidious; squeamish.

I wouldn't have a problem being called a "dainty" if the first three
definitions apply. And even the fourth definition isn't necessarily a bad
thing, depending on the context. I'm sure like always, Dale/Average
Joe/Comrade is using some private definition of the word that he dares not
define except in oblique references to the pompous music of Wagner.

I knew you would make a DAINTY PRIDE statement at some time if I just let
you go on

--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
that the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was an radical crony,
not a radical individual

That's not exactly a surprising revelation. I can't imagine most women
wanting to spend time with you-- at least without pay.


You care for your fellow man in the same way Christian Fundamentalists care
about Jews.

Ah, I see you actually do sometimes read what people write to you-- you've
added the "communication" to your litany of "comm*" words after I pointed
out that you're a terrible communicator. To save you time (and to help you
vary your increasingly repetitive cut-and-paste rants), I offer this:

nano# grep -i comm /usr/share/dict/words | fmt -w 65
accommodate accommodated accommodates accommodating
accommodation accommodations comma command commandant
commandants commanded commandeer commander commanders
commanding commandingly commandment commandments commando
commands commas commemorate commemorated commemorates
commemorating commemoration commemorative commence commenced
commencement commencements commences commencing commend
commendation commendations commended commending commends
commensurate comment commentaries commentary commentator
commentators commented commenting comments commerce commercial
commercially commercialness commercials commission commissioned
commissioner commissioners commissioning commissions commit
commitment commitments commits committed committee committeeman
committeemen committees committeewoman committeewomen committing
commodities commodity commodore commodores common commonalities
commonality commoner commoners commonest commonly commonness
commonplace commonplaces commons commonwealth commonwealths
commotion communal communally commune communes communicant
communicants communicate communicated communicates communicating
communication communications communicative communicator
communicators communion communist communists communities
community commutative commutativity commute commuted commuter
commuters commutes commuting excommunicate excommunicated
excommunicates excommunicating excommunication incommensurable
incommensurate incommunicable intercommunicate intercommunicated
intercommunicates intercommunicating intercommunication
noncommercial noncommunication recommend recommendation
recommendations recommended recommender recommending recommends
subcommittees telecommunication telecommunications uncommitted
uncommon uncommonly

thank you, I will use this in some way

actually the etymological root is com, derived from common


--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
that the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was an radical crony,
not a radical individual

Why shouldn't I? If you fail to define your terms, then we have no choice
but to define your terms for you. Oh, sorry, the imperialism of having to
make sense again.

Did you really tell TD:


Sounds suspiciously dainty to me.

Hypocritical, lukewarm, lazy joe.

SL

I do -- it was my college major. You wrote:

yourself to the imperialism of the dictionary.

I might well say the same about subjecting oneself to the imperialism of
Latin roots. Unless you, eh hem, know what you're talking about (which you
apparently don't), Latin roots / derivations are not always self-evident.

-KD

Hmmm, I qualified my statement by saying that I don't read or speak Latin.
There is no "apparently" here. What I have done is look at various
dictionaries and try to derive from that the root. If I'm wrong, it's
because my source material is wrong, or I am misunderstanding the source
material.

In any case, instead of simply telling me that I am wrong, you could do two
things:

1. Either state that Dale/Average Joe/Comrade was rightor that both of us
are wrong.

2. Educate all of us, by actually state what the Latin root word is.

My dictionary states that the English word "common" has roots in the Latin
word "communis". Looking at various other English words related to "common"
(for example "community") my dictionary states the Latin root words all
start with with "comm" (such as "communit") but have different suffixes.
From this, I presumed that the root was "comm".

I knew that the English word "vulgar" comes from the Latin word "vulgus"
which means something like "the common people." But that word (and other
Latin words related to it) don't seem to apply here.

Nevermind. Since it was your college major, you can now delight us with the
answer.

Wait -- didn't you criticize someone else for over-relying on a dictionary?

I didn't say you were wrong about anything, did I? (Please read more
carefully.) What I was trying to do was point out that you were not being
consistent in your standards.

(One of my few pet peeves in life and on Usenet is folks who don't read
carefully and/or who try to put words in my mouth or twist what I said or
didn't say.)

-KD

Not that I remember, but feel free to point out if I have. I often
criticize Dale/Average Joe/Comrade for *not* defining his terms. I guess
that would be under-relying on a dictionary.


You started with an incorrect premise (that I criticize others for
over-relying on dictionaries), so I'm not terribly concerned with you
showing an inconsistency in a position I don't have.

Incidentally, you still haven't stated if I was right or wrong. So please
put that college tuition to use and educate us all with a simple statement
of if in this particular case I was right, if Dale/Average Joe/Comrade was
right, or what the right answer is if we are both wrong.


If this is a common problem, maybe it is because you don't express yourself
clearly. Maybe instead of looking at the effect, you should consider the
cause. In your message you stated that I "apparently" don't know what I am
talking about. This combined with your statement that you had Latin as your
college major would make any rational person conclude that you were saying I
was wrong.

If there is a pet peeve I have, it is people who dance around what they are
trying to say-- who hide behind weasel words and implications. And just so
I am clear and consistent here, yes, you are in that set. If your original
intent was to point out an inconsistency in my standards, then you could
have just come out and stated so. Instead, you use an ambiguous statement
that implied I was incorrect.

your just jealous because I have a comrade now

--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
than the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was a radical crony,
not a radical individual, the very anti-thesis of individualism

John, I am all about social prowess

I grew up with a crowd of people that had considerable social prowess, and
I know what it is like to feel intimidated, the group I grew up with, in
the 70's, was really living the lifestyle of rock and roll, we had the
best parties and best women, most of my friends prospected for the
Pagans's Motorcycle Club, jocks weren't jack-shit in the 70's, and the
bourgeois culture they have built today with return of neo-50's and
neo-conservative culture, that the 50's rock and roll movement and
motorcyclists BROKE THROUGH and started the 60's

and cycling was always a theme in rock and roll

Morrison, Soft parade "leather riders selling news"
Morrison, riders on the storm
Morrison, LA Woman, Mr Mojo is rising, then riding

L.A. WOMAN Lyrics
The Doors

Well, I just got into town about an hour ago
Took a look around, see which way the wind blow
Where the little girls in their Hollywood bungalows

Are you a lucky little lady in The City of Light
Or just another lost angel...City of Night
City of Night, City of Night, City of Night, woo, c'mon


L.A. Woman, L.A. Woman
L.A. Woman Sunday afternoon
L.A. Woman Sunday afternoon
L.A. Woman Sunday afternoon
Drive thru your suburbs
Into your blues, into your blues
Into your blue-blue Blues
Into your blues, ohh, yeah


I see your hair is burnin'
Hills are filled with fire
If they say I never loved you
You know they are a liar
Drivin' down your freeways
Midnite alleys roam
Cops in cars, the topless bars
Never saw a woman...
So alone, so alone
So alone, so alone


Motel Money Murder Madness
Let's change the mood from glad to sadness


Mister Mojo risin', Mister Mojo risin'
Mister Mojo risin', Mister Mojo risin'
Got to keep on risin'
Mister Mojo risin', Mister Mojo risin'
Mojo risin', gotta Mojo risin'
Mister Mojo risin', gotta keep on risin'
ridin', ridin'
Gone ridin', ridin'
I'm gone ridin', ridin'
I gotta ridin', ridin'
Well, ridin', ridin'
I gotta, wooo, yeah, ridin'
Woah, ohh yeah


Well, I just got into town about an hour ago
Took a look around, see which way the wind blow
Where the little girls in their Hollywood bungalows


Are you a lucky little lady in The City of Light
Or just another lost angel...City of Night
City of Night, City of Night, City of Night, woah, c'mon


L.A. Woman, L.A. Woman
L.A. Woman, your my woman
Little L.A. Woman, Little L.A. Woman
L.A. L.A. Woman Woman
L.A. Woman c'mon


--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
than the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was a radical crony,
not a radical individual, the very anti-thesis of individualism

Dale, you are the Grand Marshal of the Moron Parade. You have as much
social prowess as a pile of cornstarch. And regardless of what group you
grew up with, style, class, intelligence and sanity are not gained via
osmosis.

And then you go into some rant about motorbikes and Doors lyrics. Way to
make a point buddy.

So... how about that North Korea?

Now there's a real mental image for ya..... :)

and you exploiting desperate people that need jobs is also a picture


--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
than the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was a radical crony,
not a radical individual, the very anti-thesis of individualism

Here's a hint, Dale/Average Joe/Comrade: Your daily affirmations are
supposed to be kept private.


There is a funny property of many subcultures. People in the subculture
tend to think of themselves as being rebels or outsiders to the larger
culture around them. They differentiate themselves by dress, music,
language, and attitude. But within the subculture, there is often a strict
conformist mindset going on that parallels the culture they rebel against.
It's ironic how regimented and denigrating of the individual some of these
subcultures can be. So-called "motorcycle clubs" are a prime example

Another funny property of many subcultures is how they believe their own
lies. It's a form of sentimentalized nostalgia, where a subculture looks
back fondly on the past and believes every idealistic statement they made
about themselves.

Regardless, I fail to see how merely being around people you claim had
"social prowess" impresses on you that quality. In this forum, you are
known by your words, not by your claimed past association with others. And
at least by that measure, you rank pretty close to the bottom. Your clumsy
messages-- many of which are just cut-and-paste jobs of rants you apparently
think are brilliant-- illustrate this nicely. But your most recent attempt
to give the illusion of support by creating "Comrade" and referring to
yourself in the second person as "my friend" are just embarassing.

Sad. Clumsy. Stupid.

John you are just another egotist trying to be an enigma and "refuse"
categorization by creed, or recognize organizations of creed

we know what catoegory you fit in John, you are a chameleon and snake


--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
than the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was a radical crony,
not a radical individual, the very anti-thesis of individualism

What I am or am not is just misdirection from the questions I asked about
*you*. Funny-- the more we try to talk about you, the more you try to
change the topic to each of us. Fascinating how that works.

Looking at your web site, I see little but your ego. Your web site is all
about *you*, and even when you try to talk about whatever goofy philosophies
you have, it always comes back to a discussion on you. Funny, one would
think that if your ideas had any worth, they would have worth independent of
you. Instead, your web site (and most of your messages) offer little more
than an extended "hey, dig how radical I am" ego stroke.

Sad. Clumsy. Stupid.

I have improved the outreach potential of my site and blog

[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws/blog[/url]

and I have a platform for a unified leftist front
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws/platform.htm[/url]

John, at least I am trying to make social progress and cultural progress,
you are just a bourgeois pig, suggesting laissez faire, so you can wallow
in the status quo, the very definition of bourgeois, because the status is
nothing to adron yourself with, it is the progression of yesterday


--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
than the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was a radical crony,
not a radical individual, the very anti-thesis of individualism

it is print-on-demand, and a viable means by which you can subvert the
publishing censorship CABAL, I get listed in all the online book stores,
including amazon, I just don't get into physical bookstores, unless I pay
the price for those copies, which I could, but many people buy books
online now, so, the print-on-demand model, fits right in, since pre-paid
thousands of copies, ARE NO LONGER NECCESARY

[url]http://www.trafford.com/[/url]

and what you are doing is validating the CABAL of publishers control over
speech, via their censorship, Michael Moore had such problems with his
book "Stupid White Men", even after they printed up all the copies and
spent the money

[url]http://www.michaelmoore.com[/url]


--
Comrade
see my friend Average Joe's site
[url]http://www.mysolution.ws[/url]
the aristocracy was the problem in 1776
the aristocracy is the problem today
[url]http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport[/url]
we must close the door by which aristocracy arises

"Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
than the man who has the good forced upon him?"
a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick

Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
"Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
of enlightenment.
Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784

Ayn Rand just professed laissez faire, another Jewish mysticist
of Zionist status quo social order, and aspiring to such, she
never challenged "the establishment" she was a radical crony,
not a radical individual, the very anti-thesis of individualism